NAME ANALYSIS FOR: Erin Lindsay Jones
Erin:
You have a need to communicate and express yourself. You are inclined to over intellectualize, and hate to be misquoted. You enjoy a challenge. You can take thought-directed actions. You are relatively demonstrative in your affections. You enjoy being stroked verbally and physically. You can handle details well. You have a methodical mind.
Lindsay:
You are fair-minded sometimes to the point of being opinionated. You have a strong need to be loved and appreciated. You need to learn to give and receive love for love's sake. You have a need to be assured of affection. You must learn to give 'wise' service and not be a martyr. You have a discriminating nature coupled with perseverance and family pride. You try to be prudent. You have good business acumen. You have much enthusiasm with a driving attitude toward achievement in life. Your independence and freedom are important to you.
Jones:
You have a love of travel and adventure, and you enjoy sports. You also have a very strong sense of fair play and want justice. You have a great deal of loyalty to those you love. You have much inner strength. You must learn to give 'wise' service and not be a martyr. You need to learn to be expressive. You are a person who cannot tolerate being misunderstood. You have a need to earn money to prove your success to society and must learn the true value of material gains and status.
**So what do ya'll think is it true? lol I enjoy these things for some reason.**
Friday, July 30, 2004
!!Stressed!!
I don't particularly like being stressed, lol although I know no one else does, but if they did, they must be quite strange. The last 2 weeks have been very mentally challenging. I've been fighting myself again. Meaning - I start to freak out about every damn thing. You know when I posted about Renee and I said I didn't want to previously cause I was afraid to jinx it, well lol I kind of jinxed it. In all of my previous relationships, I started to freak out, either something that may seem insignificant to most people, or their actually was a big deal. But I'd eventually end the relationship. I've been trying so hard with Renee and not to let that happen. I've been stressed out about alot of things recently, that don't relate to anything with Renee. But that stuff has been adding more stress to our relationship, and I haven't been able to handle it quite well lately. And I haven't felt secure with our relationship. With the stress of school, and well I was having stress over something (which I do not wish to discuss at the moment) from earlier this year, and memories past relationships (people I've dated and people I've seriously liked) coming up and biting me in the ass.
Here recently, I've been having feelings for ex's, or well strong memories, which I wish those relationships could have continued, like Sara and Katlin. I mean with Katlin I wonder what could have been if we were allowed to date, and well I've been seeing her up at the weight room and talking to her more on the net, and I guess I just miss her. But truth be told, mine and Renee's relationship isn't all as glamorous as I've made it out to be. For me, the entire time we've been together it seems like I'm always fighting her. Primarily for her to open up, but also for her to quit letting herself be controlled by her own fears, which in my opinion aren't as big of a deal as she makes them out to be. Its just been extremely frustrating. And honestly I'm really tired, emotionally and mentally. I love spending time with her, but I'm just so tired of fighting. And what I hate even more, is having to tell the person how I feel, and then them feeling compelled to "change." And thats what shes been doing, feeling compelled, and I just don't want to be dating someone who feels obligated to please me. Its not like that, it shouldn't be like that, the relationship should be equal, equal effort.
I don't know, I've just been so confused lately. Seems I get that way every few months. I mean I'm not confused, I know what I want, but somehow that final decision always involves someone else's feelings. Well to explain it, I always seem to jump into a relationship, granted I want that, but I've never been able to just date someone a few times and go from there. Its always seemed to be going straight into a serious relationship that lasts for awhile. But at this point in my life I just don't feel thats what I need, a serious relationship that is. I want to be able to be free, lol. Don't get me wrong, I love Renee and past people that I've dated. But I don't like to miss opportunities, I'm always interested in people, but when I'm in a "serious" relationship, I am tied down, and can not pursue other possibilities. I could, but that'd be cheating, and I strictly will not ever cheat on someone. I guess I'm confused cause I love being with Renee, and I wish I could just take a "break" (but breaks never work, simply cause they just don't), I wish she could understand how I feel, and we could just like go back to dating (lol which we skipped, like always). But anything I do, I know is going to hurt her. And with a different point, shes got another year of high school, and I'll be at college in like a week and a half. I could promise I'd come back and see her every weekend, but I know in my heart, that I could be able to follow through with that. Plus I just can't do the distance thing well at all. And another thing, she and I are on completely different maturity levels and are at different points in our lives. And I honestly just don't want a serious relationship. Its pretty overwhelming for me at times.
I wish she could understand that, and not be hurt at the same time. I really just am not sure what to do at the moment. I just needed to vent, and put down exactly whats been going through my mind. This is all for now, laters.
I don't particularly like being stressed, lol although I know no one else does, but if they did, they must be quite strange. The last 2 weeks have been very mentally challenging. I've been fighting myself again. Meaning - I start to freak out about every damn thing. You know when I posted about Renee and I said I didn't want to previously cause I was afraid to jinx it, well lol I kind of jinxed it. In all of my previous relationships, I started to freak out, either something that may seem insignificant to most people, or their actually was a big deal. But I'd eventually end the relationship. I've been trying so hard with Renee and not to let that happen. I've been stressed out about alot of things recently, that don't relate to anything with Renee. But that stuff has been adding more stress to our relationship, and I haven't been able to handle it quite well lately. And I haven't felt secure with our relationship. With the stress of school, and well I was having stress over something (which I do not wish to discuss at the moment) from earlier this year, and memories past relationships (people I've dated and people I've seriously liked) coming up and biting me in the ass.
Here recently, I've been having feelings for ex's, or well strong memories, which I wish those relationships could have continued, like Sara and Katlin. I mean with Katlin I wonder what could have been if we were allowed to date, and well I've been seeing her up at the weight room and talking to her more on the net, and I guess I just miss her. But truth be told, mine and Renee's relationship isn't all as glamorous as I've made it out to be. For me, the entire time we've been together it seems like I'm always fighting her. Primarily for her to open up, but also for her to quit letting herself be controlled by her own fears, which in my opinion aren't as big of a deal as she makes them out to be. Its just been extremely frustrating. And honestly I'm really tired, emotionally and mentally. I love spending time with her, but I'm just so tired of fighting. And what I hate even more, is having to tell the person how I feel, and then them feeling compelled to "change." And thats what shes been doing, feeling compelled, and I just don't want to be dating someone who feels obligated to please me. Its not like that, it shouldn't be like that, the relationship should be equal, equal effort.
I don't know, I've just been so confused lately. Seems I get that way every few months. I mean I'm not confused, I know what I want, but somehow that final decision always involves someone else's feelings. Well to explain it, I always seem to jump into a relationship, granted I want that, but I've never been able to just date someone a few times and go from there. Its always seemed to be going straight into a serious relationship that lasts for awhile. But at this point in my life I just don't feel thats what I need, a serious relationship that is. I want to be able to be free, lol. Don't get me wrong, I love Renee and past people that I've dated. But I don't like to miss opportunities, I'm always interested in people, but when I'm in a "serious" relationship, I am tied down, and can not pursue other possibilities. I could, but that'd be cheating, and I strictly will not ever cheat on someone. I guess I'm confused cause I love being with Renee, and I wish I could just take a "break" (but breaks never work, simply cause they just don't), I wish she could understand how I feel, and we could just like go back to dating (lol which we skipped, like always). But anything I do, I know is going to hurt her. And with a different point, shes got another year of high school, and I'll be at college in like a week and a half. I could promise I'd come back and see her every weekend, but I know in my heart, that I could be able to follow through with that. Plus I just can't do the distance thing well at all. And another thing, she and I are on completely different maturity levels and are at different points in our lives. And I honestly just don't want a serious relationship. Its pretty overwhelming for me at times.
I wish she could understand that, and not be hurt at the same time. I really just am not sure what to do at the moment. I just needed to vent, and put down exactly whats been going through my mind. This is all for now, laters.
Tuesday, July 27, 2004
~~A comment I posted on Rebecca's blogger~~
Do you remember the song "things I'll never say" by Avril Lavigne? You posted the lyrics in April 2003. Do you remember when I sang it to you? Its been more than a year, and still the lyrics seem true as day to me, all of them that is. "I guess i'm wishing my life away, with these things I'll never say" At the time I didn't realize how true that part of the song was, until it was too late. We as people have changed, neither in a negative way. We have changed, and drifted. No regrets, no regrets.
With college coming for the both of us in just 2 weeks (well definately for me it is, with soccer), the distance will be far greater between us, than it has ever been before. I worry, I envy. I worry cause I know we will drift farther apart. I envy the people who will enjoy your company in the time to come. Rebecca you still hold a very large part of my heart. This year was our senior year, what happened to cool pants back during freshman year. It hardly seems we've known each other so long. One beginning soon to become an end. Is the beginning of college perhaps the final ending to the chapter that we wrote together. And then we individually start new chapters for the rest of our lives. Point being that I'm letting you know that the time we've known and spent together, I'll cherish the rest of my life.
Change has had its ups and downs with me, in this circumstance, its hard. Its hard to accept that the ones I've held so close, I actually have to let go of now, I've actually held on to you for too long I think. And thats something the old me never would have said to you.
I accept our differences, I accept the change. I've missed and will miss hanging out with you, talking to you on the net and the rare phone conversations we had.
You are a great woman Rebecca, and the only actual reply I have to this entry, is that occasionally you have to be true to yourself. I know just as well as you do, its gets exhausted always focusing on other people, you need a break every once and awhile.
The old me would post this as anonymous, but I don't care about letting strangers how I feel, but I hope you don't mind me posting this to your friends. Boppper, I love you, I always will. I only hope for the best for you, and I know you will go far. Perhaps in the years to come out paths will meet again, but until then who knows.
Love always,
C.P.
Do you remember the song "things I'll never say" by Avril Lavigne? You posted the lyrics in April 2003. Do you remember when I sang it to you? Its been more than a year, and still the lyrics seem true as day to me, all of them that is. "I guess i'm wishing my life away, with these things I'll never say" At the time I didn't realize how true that part of the song was, until it was too late. We as people have changed, neither in a negative way. We have changed, and drifted. No regrets, no regrets.
With college coming for the both of us in just 2 weeks (well definately for me it is, with soccer), the distance will be far greater between us, than it has ever been before. I worry, I envy. I worry cause I know we will drift farther apart. I envy the people who will enjoy your company in the time to come. Rebecca you still hold a very large part of my heart. This year was our senior year, what happened to cool pants back during freshman year. It hardly seems we've known each other so long. One beginning soon to become an end. Is the beginning of college perhaps the final ending to the chapter that we wrote together. And then we individually start new chapters for the rest of our lives. Point being that I'm letting you know that the time we've known and spent together, I'll cherish the rest of my life.
Change has had its ups and downs with me, in this circumstance, its hard. Its hard to accept that the ones I've held so close, I actually have to let go of now, I've actually held on to you for too long I think. And thats something the old me never would have said to you.
I accept our differences, I accept the change. I've missed and will miss hanging out with you, talking to you on the net and the rare phone conversations we had.
You are a great woman Rebecca, and the only actual reply I have to this entry, is that occasionally you have to be true to yourself. I know just as well as you do, its gets exhausted always focusing on other people, you need a break every once and awhile.
The old me would post this as anonymous, but I don't care about letting strangers how I feel, but I hope you don't mind me posting this to your friends. Boppper, I love you, I always will. I only hope for the best for you, and I know you will go far. Perhaps in the years to come out paths will meet again, but until then who knows.
Love always,
C.P.
Monday, July 26, 2004
To add to a comment from a previous entry: So obviously I know you. I do think it matters who you are, I'd like to know what friends read this thing. And even if you make me completely mad, I'd still consider you a friend. What do you mean people move one? And why do you wonder why alot and why do you wish things were different? But yeah I do think it would make a difference. I know a handful of people who read this, although they might deny it to me, I know more of who would read this because of my site counter, which gives me the internet provider of who visits. Forgive me for being technical. I'm just really curious. Please tell me. Laters
"hey Erin, I don't think I should tell you who ''I'' am b/c it wouldn't make a difference anyway. Just the fact that I wanted to tell you it was a wonderful story. I miss hanging out with you but people move on. Later"
Ok so someone commented on one of my last entries, and I'm wondering who wrote this, either one of my friends or just a frequent reader. Please email me and tell me who you are, simply out of my curiosity.
"Great story. Sounds exactly like you - they must know you pretty well. Wish that things were different sometimes b/c we never know why certain things are the way they are.... I wonder why a lot."
"hey Erin, I don't think I should tell you who ''I'' am b/c it wouldn't make a difference anyway. Just the fact that I wanted to tell you it was a wonderful story. I miss hanging out with you but people move on. Later"
Ok so someone commented on one of my last entries, and I'm wondering who wrote this, either one of my friends or just a frequent reader. Please email me and tell me who you are, simply out of my curiosity.
"Great story. Sounds exactly like you - they must know you pretty well. Wish that things were different sometimes b/c we never know why certain things are the way they are.... I wonder why a lot."
Saturday, July 24, 2004
**Ok so I've been working on this the last few days, I found this article, and I have chosen to reply to it all. Kind of a debate I guess, but really I've just been wanting to give my opinions on all of the nonsense going on these days about same-sex marriage. In a way I find Dr. Dobson funny, but everything he writes about, is how alot of Americans actually feel and think. So well, between his and opinion and mine, you can decide for yourself. And if you'd like to reply to add to either opinions feel free and comment. Well I hope you enjoy, and remember both of these are simply opinions, and in no way were they intended to offend anyone, and it shouldn't because they are just opinions. Ok thats all, Laters. **
May 23, 2004
Eleven Arguments Against Same-Sex Marriage
by Dr. James Dobson
An argument in favor of homosexual marriage that you are likely to hear again and again on radio talk shows, on national television, and on the Internet, reflects a line of reasoning that you must be prepared to counter. It is embodied in these kinds of questions: Why all the fuss about gay marriage anyway? And why should it matter to you if a gay couple marries and moves into your neighborhood? Why shouldn’t our definition of family be broadened and modernized? After all, what harm could possibly be done by yielding to the demands of those who say traditional notions of family are outmoded and irrelevant? Columnist Steve Blow, in a recent edition of The Dallas Morning News, echoed some of these questions. His op-ed piece was titled “Gay Marriage: Why Would It Affect Me?” and was apparently written after he had read one of my recent newsletters on the subject. Blow wrote:
When opponents talk about the “defense of marriage,” they lose me. James Dobson’s Focus on the Family just sent out a mailer to 2.5 million homes saying: “The homosexual activists’ movement is poised to administer a devastating and potentially fatal blow to the traditional family.” And I say, “Huh?” How does anyone’s pledge of love and commitment turn into a fatal blow to families?
May 23, 2004
Eleven Arguments Against Same-Sex Marriage
by Dr. James Dobson
An argument in favor of homosexual marriage that you are likely to hear again and again on radio talk shows, on national television, and on the Internet, reflects a line of reasoning that you must be prepared to counter. It is embodied in these kinds of questions: Why all the fuss about gay marriage anyway? And why should it matter to you if a gay couple marries and moves into your neighborhood? Why shouldn’t our definition of family be broadened and modernized? After all, what harm could possibly be done by yielding to the demands of those who say traditional notions of family are outmoded and irrelevant? Columnist Steve Blow, in a recent edition of The Dallas Morning News, echoed some of these questions. His op-ed piece was titled “Gay Marriage: Why Would It Affect Me?” and was apparently written after he had read one of my recent newsletters on the subject. Blow wrote:
When opponents talk about the “defense of marriage,” they lose me. James Dobson’s Focus on the Family just sent out a mailer to 2.5 million homes saying: “The homosexual activists’ movement is poised to administer a devastating and potentially fatal blow to the traditional family.” And I say, “Huh?” How does anyone’s pledge of love and commitment turn into a fatal blow to families?
Mr. Blow clearly believes that the only reason for not legalizing homosexual marriage is sheer bigotry. Nothing could be further from the truth. There are very compelling arguments against marriage between homosexuals that should be considered by anyone who has not yet become familiar with the issues. Unfortunately, the American people, as a whole, have not yet thought through the consequences and measured the impact of this revolutionary concept. I could list fifty or more legitimate concerns. Let me focus on only eleven:
1. The legalization of homosexual marriage will quickly destroy the traditional family.
We’ve already seen evidence from the Scandinavian countries that de-facto homosexual marriage destroys the real Mc Coy. These two entities cannot coexist because they represent opposite ends of the universe. A book could be written on the reasons for this collision between matter and antimatter, but I will cite three of them. First, when the State sanctions homosexual relationships and gives them its blessing, the younger generation becomes confused about sexual identity and quickly loses its understanding of lifelong commitments, emotional bonding, sexual purity, the role of children in a family, and from a spiritual perspective, the “sanctity” of marriage. Marriage is reduced to something of a partnership that provides attractive benefits and sexual convenience, but cannot offer the intimacy described in Genesis. Cohabitation and short-term relationships are the inevitable result. Ask the Norwegians, the Swedes, and the people from the Netherlands. That is exactly what is happening there.
*~*~If you really think think about it, marriage between a man and a woman is the same with any same-sex marriage, or would be the same if same-sex marriage was allowed. This says cohabitation and short-term relationships are the inevitable results of same-sex marriage being recognized. Look at how high the rate of divorce is these days, and yes divorce of a heterosexual marriage. Any type of marriage is bound to have divorces. And many heterosexual marriages reduce it just for the benefits and sexual convenience.
Second, the introduction of legalized gay marriages will lead inexorably to polygamy and other alternatives to one man/one woman unions. In Utah polygamist Tom Green, who claims five wives, is citing Lawrence v. Texas as the legal authority for his appeal. In January 2004, a Salt Lake City civil rights attorney filed a federal lawsuit on behalf of another couple wanting to engage in legal polygamy. Their justification? Lawrence v. Texas. The ACLU of Utah has actually suggested that the state will “have to step up to prove that a polygamous relationship is detrimental to society” — as opposed to the polygamists having to prove that plural marriage is not harmful to the culture. Do you see how the game is played? The responsibility to defend the family now rests on you and me to prove that polygamy is unhealthy. The ACLU went on to say that the nuclear family “may not be necessarily the best model.” Indeed, Justice Antonin Scalia warned of this likelihood in his statement for the minority in the Lawrence case. It took less than six months for His prediction to become a reality. Why will gay marriage set the table for polygamy? Because there is no place to stop once that Rubicon has been crossed. Historically, the definition of marriage has rested on a foundation of tradition, legal precedent, theology and the overwhelming support of the people. After the introduction of marriage between homosexuals, however, it will be supported by nothing more substantial than the opinion of a single judge or by a black-robed panel of justices. After they have reached their dubious decisions, the family will consist of little more than someone’s interpretation of “rights.” Given that unstable legal climate, it is certain that some self-possessed judge, somewhere, will soon rule that three men or three women can marry. Or five men and two women. Or four and four. Who will be able to deny them that right? The guarantee is implied, we will be told, by the Constitution. Those who disagree will continue to be seen as hate-mongers and bigots. (Indeed, those charges are already being leveled against Christians who espouse biblical values!) How about group marriage, or marriage between cousins, or marriage between daddies and little girls? How about marriage between a man and his donkey? Anything allegedly linked to “civil rights” will be doable. The legal underpinnings for marriage will have been destroyed.
*~*~I don't understand this completely, a man with 5 wives was seen not detrimental (but Dobson believes otherwise), and then Dobson goes into other things I guess he sees also has detrimental. He doesn't make sense with the paragraph, he doesn't connect well, in my opinion. A woman could have 5 husbands, a man could have 5 husbands. Anything is possible, but it was up to the government to legally prove them detrimental. In this case, one man's opinion is all it is. Based on the U.S. Constitution when it was origianlly written, a person should have the right to decide what his or her family will consisit of, it is up to them. And it shouldn't matter is someone has a difference of opinion of them, because it was not there decision.
The third reason marriage between homosexuals will destroy traditional marriage is that this is the ultimate goal of activists, and they will not stop until they achieve it. The history of the gay and lesbian movement has been that its adherents quickly move the goal line as soon as the previous one has been breached, revealing even more shocking and outrageous objectives. In the present instance, homosexual activists, heady with power and exhilaration, feel the political climate is right to tell us what they have wanted all along. This is the real deal: Most gays and lesbians do not want to marry each other. That would entangle them in all sorts of legal constraints. Who needs a lifetime commitment to one person? The intention here is to create an entirely different legal structure.
*~*~I believe this comment is even more shocking and outrageous, and the information is biased. I believe he is wrong, most gays and lesbians do want to marry each other for love and to have the benefits and and acknowledgement of their love just like a heterosexual couple. Based on the constitution and struggles throughout time, this country was made so that everyone was eligible to have equal rights. So what makes homosexual marriages different that heterosexual marriage when it comes to equal rights, homosexuals should be granted the same rights as everyone else, but yet we aren't granted the right of marriage. If you disagree with this, then you are saying our U.S. constitution is wrong in the sense that everyone has equal rights.
With marriage as we know it gone, everyone would enjoy all the legal benefits of marriage (custody rights, tax-free inheritance, joint ownership of property, health care and spousal citizenship, and much more) without limiting the number of partners or their gender. Nor would “couples” be bound to each other in the eyes of the law. This is clearly where the movement is headed. If you doubt that this is the motive, read what is in the literature today. Activists have created a new word to replace the outmoded terms infidelity, adultery, cheating and promiscuity. The new concept is polyamorous. It means the same thing (literally “many loves”) but with the agreement of the primary sexual partner. Why not? He or she is probably polyamorous, too.
*~*~Why does Dobson continue to go with the polygamy view? I don't believe this is where the movement is headed. As a gay, I don't desire to marry more than one person, and every homosexual person I know is monogamous. Again I feel Dobson is being biased.
Liberal columnist Michael Kinsley wrote a July 2003 op-ed piece in The Washington Post titled, “Abolish Marriage: Let’s Really Get the Government Out Of Our Bedrooms.” In this revealing editorial, Kinsley writes, “[The] solution is to end the institution of marriage, or rather, the solution is to end the institution of government monopoly on marriage. And yes, if three people want to get married, or one person wants to marry herself and someone else wants to conduct a ceremony and declare them married, let ’em. If you and your government aren’t implicated, what do you care? If marriage were an entirely private affair, all the disputes over gay marriages would become irrelevant.” Otherwise, the author warns, “it’s going to get ugly.”
Judith Levine, writing in The Village Voice, offered support for these ideas in an article titled “Stop the Wedding: Why Gay Marriage Isn’t Radical Enough.” She wrote, “Because American marriage is inextricable from Christianity, it admits participants as Noah let animals on the ark. But it doesn’t have to be that way. In 1972 the National Coalition of Gay Organizations demanded the ‘repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into a marriage unit; and the extension of legal benefits to all persons who cohabit regardless of sex or numbers.’ Group marriage could comprise any combination of genders.”
Stanley Kurtz, a research fellow at the Hoover Institution, summed up the situation in a recent Weekly Standard article. He noted that if gay marriage is legalized, “marriage will be transformed into a variety of relationship contracts, linking two, three or more individuals (however weakly or temporarily) in every conceivable combination of male and female … the bottom of this slope is visible from where we now stand.”
*~*~I still don't see how this author is saying that 2 people speak for the entire gay community. And as for Michael Kinsley, what he wrote in his article was simply his own opinion or thoughts. And I don't see how Dobson is linking each of these individuals as a major problem. As far as I see it they are speaking for themselves not the majority.
We must all become soberly aware of a deeply disturbing reality: The homosexual agenda is not marriage for gays. It is marriage for no one. And despite what you read or see in the media, it is definitely not monogamous. What will happen sociologically if marriage becomes anything or everything or nothing? The short answer is that the State will lose its compelling interest in marital relationships altogether. After marriage has been redefined, divorces will be obtained instantly, will not involve a court, and will take on the status of a driver’s license or a hunting permit. With the family out of the way, all rights and privileges of marriage will accrue to gay and lesbian partners without the legal entanglements and commitments heretofore associated with it. These are just a few reasons why homosexual marriage is truly revolutionary. Legalizing it will change everything, especially for the institution of the family.
*~*~Does Dobson seriously believe that homosexuals would not have any legal commitments. A marriage is a marriage it would not change legal status just because it was between a man and man or between a woman and a woman. Why would the government change the rules and commitments of a marriage just because it would be a couple of the same sex. I think Dobson is out of line here.
2. Children will suffer most.
The implications for children in a world of decaying families are profound. Because homosexuals are rarely monogamous, often having as many as three hundred or more partners in a lifetime — some studies say it is typically more than one thousand — children in those polyamorous situations are caught in a perpetual coming and going. It is devastating to kids, who by their nature are enormously conservative creatures. They like things to stay just the way they are, and they hate change. Some have been known to eat the same brand of peanut butter throughout childhood. More than ten thousand studies have concluded that kids do best when they are raised by loving and committed mothers and fathers. They are less likely to be on illegal drugs, less likely to be retained in a grade, less likely to drop out of school, less likely to commit suicide, less likely to be in poverty, less likely to become juvenile delinquents, and for the girls, less likely to become teen mothers. They are healthier both emotionally and physically, even thirty years later, than those not so blessed by traditional parents.
*~*~Oh wow, I can't even believe what Dobson just said here. "Homosexuals are rarely monogamous and often have up to 300 partners and sometimes more than a thousand partners in a lifetime." Ok one he is completely exaggerating, and two that is complete bullshit to be blunt. The fact that he even says that is shocking to me, but yet other people still believe it simply because some scientist guy said it, it must be true. Ok and then he talks about kids with a mother and father are less likely to blah, blah, blah. Ok let me say this, any child with any kind of parent can go any sort of way with their life, good or bad. Heterosexual parents are in no way the ideal parents, they have the ability to screw up just like the next person. I know this, my parents divorced when I was 4. I have seen many homosexual parents, those either had them or adopted, and they are far more better parents than I have ever seen.
Social scientists have been surprisingly consistent in warning about the impact of fractured families. If present trends continue, the majority of children will have several “moms” and “dads,” perhaps six or eight “grandparents,” and dozens of half-siblings. It will be a world where little boys and girls are shuffled from pillar to post in an ever-changing pattern of living arrangements; where huge numbers of them will be raised in foster-care homes or living on the street, as millions do in countries all over the world today. Imagine an environment where nothing is stable and where people think primarily about themselves and their own self-preservation. And have you considered what will happen when homosexuals with children become divorced? Instead of two moms and two dads, they will have to contend with four moms or four dads. How would you like to be a new husband a generation later who instantly had four or six or eight mother-in-laws.
*~*~What happens when a divorced heterosexual family occurs, they have more grandpas and grandmas, theres not much of a difference. Any divorced family is going to have a change in living arrangements, etc. But I do not believe they would be raised in foster-care or on the street. They would still have a family even if they got divorced, their family would not abandon them. At the most, by today's law, a new husband would only have 4 mother in laws, well really just two. The original parents, and then the women married to those two would not directly be mother-in-laws because they are step-parents to the child.
We must also consider a world of the future where immorality is even more rampant than today, where both unbridled homosexual and heterosexual liaisons are the norm. The apostle Paul described such a society in the book of Romans, referring apparently to ancient Rome. He wrote, “They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless” (Romans 1:29–31). It appears likely now that the demise of families will accelerate this type of decline dramatically, resulting in a chaotic culture that will rip kids apart emotionally.
*~*~ It would not be immoral, but it is becoming more of a norm. But you do have to realize that unbridled homosexual relationships are that way because it is not legal to be married. But either way, unbridled relationships are becoming more common. My opinion is because the divorce rate is one the rise, and instead of becoming a statistic, couples are becoming smarter and choose to live together, etc. to test to see if they can end up spending the rest of their lives together. And as for what Apostle Paul said, that description is how all of the world is, and how it was then, after all everyone is a sinner. I don't believe it can accelerate or decelerate, it just is that way. I don't believe it will result in a chaotic culture or rip kids apart emotionally. And as for that, I believe kids growing up with homosexual parents have a more understanding view of the world, and are much more open-minded about everything. They are not as sheltered from the truth, like a kid would be with heterosexual parents. I base that opinion on my own life (with heterosexual paents, divorced, in which I grew up with a different view of life than most, and I'm also gay so thats another part of my view), and lives of kids that I know grew up with homosexual parents.
3. Public schools in every state will embrace homosexuality.
With the legalization of homosexual marriage, every public school in the nation will be required to teach this perversion as the moral equivalent of traditional marriage between a man and a woman. Textbooks, even in conservative regions, will have to depict man/man and woman/woman relationships, and stories written for children as young as elementary school, or even kindergarten, will have to give equal space and emphasis to homosexuals. How can a child, fresh out of toddlerhood, comprehend the meaning of adult sexuality? The answer is, they can’t, but it is happening in the state of California already.
*~*~Growing up, I don't remember being taught about sex in school until maybe 4th or 5th grade. But thats beside the point, why would it be so wrong for kids to understand how the world really is, rather than sheltering them from the truth. Its not as harmful as you think. If your honest with kids and they are able to have knowledge about things, then they can learn to think for themselves early in life and build their own opinions. Yes they would have to give equal space and emphasis to homosexuals, but it shouldn't be such a big deal, everyone deserves equal space and emphasis.
4. Adoption laws will be instantly obsolete.
From the moment that homosexual marriage becomes legal, courts will not be able to favor a traditional couple of one man and one woman in matters of adoption. Children will be placed in homes with parents representing only one sex on an equal basis with those having a mom and a dad. Even the polyamorous couples won’t be excluded. The prospect of fatherless and motherless children will not be considered in the evaluation of eligibility. It will be the law.
*~*~Adoption laws would not instantly be obsolete (no longer in use). And notice what Dobson says, the courts won't be able to favor a traditional couple of heterosexuals. When it comes to adoption companys or the people who do the legal stuff in adoption. They check out each family and decide if they are eligble to adopt, meaning they look at if they would be a responsible and safe family to have a adopted child. They don't just randomly give out kids to strange people. I believe any child with knowledge is able to put in their opinion of what type of parent they would like to be placed with. But most kids just want a safe loving home. And to reply to the parents only representing only one sex, well what about those single people who adopt, they are only representing one sex. It is actually fairly common for a single person to adopt than most people think.
5. Foster-care programs will be impacted dramatically.
Foster-care parents will be required to undergo “sensitivity training” to rid themselves of bias in favor of heterosexuality, and will have to affirm homosexuality in children and teens. Moral training, at least as it applies to sexuality, will be forbidden. Again, this is the current law in California.
*~*~Who cares if its a current law in California, I'm just saying that just cause Dobson says it like it a plague or something. Again, foster parents just like adopting parents have a choice in what type of child they receive (which technically they're all the same, but their sexual preference is simply different). But they do have a choice when they apply (or however they do it) to be able to receive a child. And if occasionally its against their will, it would be a learning experience. I believe more people need to open their eyes and see the world is different, but just because it may be different from them, doesn't mean it is wrong.
6. The health care system will stagger and perhaps collapse.
This could be the straw that breaks the back of the insurance industry in Western nations, as millions of new dependents become eligible for coverage. Every HIV-positive patient needs only to find a partner to receive the same coverage as offered to an employee. It is estimated by some analysts that an initial threefold increase in premiums can be anticipated; even with that, it may not be profitable for companies to stay in business. And how about the cost to American businesses? Will they be able to provide health benefits? If not, can physicians, nurses, and technicians be expected to work for nothing or to provide their services in exchange for a vague promise of payments from indigent patients? Try selling that to a neurosurgeon or an orthopedist who has to pay increased premiums for malpractice insurance. The entire health care system could implode. Is it possible? Yes. Will it happen? I don’t know.
*~*~And how exactly does being homosexual tie into this? Correct me if I'm wrong, each person pays for their insurance. And if you work some sort of money comes out of your paycheck to pay for some insurance or health tax. If you logically think about it, if you work and have health benefits, in some way you are really paying for those benefits. Nearly everything in this country is a contradiction. For example, something says buy one get one free, and you think well thats a higher price, but I'm getting two. But if you really do the math its the price of individual things just added together, and labeled that your getting two. At the most your saving a few cents. So having your employer give you benefits is similar, but easier to you because it seems as if they're paying for it, and is less of a financial hassle for you. Again you have to really think about it to catch my concept. But again how does being homosexual tie into this, it doesn't.
And I still don't understand how people always referring to homosexuals and HIV in the same sentence. I really don't understand that scheme. You get HIV from having sex, yes, and drug use (in which usuing needles), any random cuts, etc. But its not just a homosexual thing, and I think its time for America to stop looking at it that way. A very high percentage of people in Africa have HIV, but are they all homosexual, hell no they aren't. And I think americans realize that about the people in Africa. But they look at the people in their very own country differently. Accidents and mistakes happen, but its not one single person's, heterosexual or homesexual, one race, one age, or one gender's fault. People need to accept and realize that.
7. Social Security will be severely stressed.
Again, with millions of new eligible dependents, what will happen to the Social Security system that is already facing bankruptcy? If it does collapse, what will that mean for elderly people who must rely totally on that meager support? Who is thinking through these draconian possibilities as we careen toward “a brave new world”?
*~*~This is complete bullshit and unbased information. The definition of Social Security: a government program of monthly payments to te elderly, the disabled, and the unemployed, financed by taxation of employers and employees. How does the factor of being a homosexual key into this, it doesn't. Everyone, homosexual or heterosexual, is actually equal when it comes to social security. Honestly, I think Dobson was desperate for something to bitch about. Seriously being a homosexual does not make a difference in the way social security works, and if a collapse does occur then it will have the same effect on everyone.
8. Religious freedom will almost certainly be jeopardized.
In order to get a perspective on where the homosexual activist movement is taking us, one can simply look at our neighbors to the north. Canada is leading the way on this revolutionary path. I could cite dozens of examples indicating that religious freedom in that country is dying. Indeed, on April 28, 2004, the Parliament passed bill C 250, which effectively criminalized speech or writings that criticize homosexuality. Anything deemed to be “homophobic” can be punished by six months in prison or by other severe penalties. Pastors and priests in Canada are wondering if they can preach from Leviticus or Romans 1 or other passages from the writings of the apostle Paul. Will a new Bible be mandated that is bereft of “hate speech”? Consider this: A man who owned a printing press in Canada was fined $3,400 for refusing to print stationary for a homosexual activist organization. Censorship is already in full swing. One of our Focus on the Family radio programs on the subject of homosexuality was judged by the Canadian Radio and Television Commission to be “homophobic.” The radio station that carried the broadcast was censured for airing it, and I have not been able to address the issue since. Is that kind of censorship coming to the United States. Yes, I believe it is. Once homosexual marriage is legalized, if indeed that is where we are headed, laws based on what will be considered “equality” will bring many changes in the law. Furthermore, it is likely that non-profit organizations that refuse to hire homosexuals on religious grounds will lose their tax exemptions. Some Christian colleges and universities are already worrying about that possibility.
*~*~ Aww.... good ol' religious freedom, its been bullshit since the beginning of this country. Christianity as been imposed on americans, seriously think about it. Americans have relgious freedom, but yet when someone did witchcraft back in the day, they were burned or hung, just for thinking different, and going against the accepted norm. In the 1950's (specifically when, i'm not sure), "In God We Trust" was put into the pledge of allegiance. Now let me ask you, did they ask everyone in America if they wanted that in the pledge? No they didn't, but even so, the majority wins, and many legal battles have gone on since, but that just brings in more money for government. Ok and when you bring up Canada's decisions you have to realize they are not the United States, they have different laws than us. Here in America, we have the right of free press etc. Which makes it easier to plead your case if you publish something that is homophobic, you have that right. Businesses have the right to refuse business to anyone . However, you can not discriminate on basis of being prejudice. One thing about America, its full of contradictions, get used to it.
Honestly, I'm proud of Canada for criminalizing homophobic speeches and writings. Its promotes more understanding. Sure I don't think it would be a problem for pastors to preech their teachings of the bible, and whatever it says against homosexuals, in church. But thats simply it, it should stay in church. What is it about Christianity, and them trying to force religion on you. Don't deny it, thats what they do. In the old days, and still in today's society you are criticized and looked down upon for being different, hate crimes (physically and emotionally) still occur. I don't think homosexual marriages will bring on such changes (or not near as dramatic as Dobson makes them out to be) to America, sure things will change, equality will be more promoted. Get used to it. There are boundaries to everything. Religion will have its boundaries, keep it inside church, where it belongs.
And as for people saying they don't want to see any homosexual couples or whatever, well let me say this, I don't want to see any heterosexual couples either. Seriously I don't know how many times I'm seen straight couples making out at school and everyone else, I don't want to see it as much as the next person, save it for your home, please. I don't want to see them make out, and people don't want to see homosexuals make out either. There should be a balance with that. But homosexuals are shunned and criticizes for their PDA. I would like to be able to hold hands with whoever I am dating in public just like every straight couple is allowed to do, but being a homosexual I can't without some sort of negative result, atleast one person will give you a "your going to hell" look. I wish I could have equal rights and results just like a straight couple would. Homosexuals are no different than a straight couple, so why should we be treated differently. And seriously, any couple, gay or straight, save the making out and being all over each other for some place private, like your own home, I don't want to see it. Simple kisses and holding hands is ok, simple is ok. Any one else agree with that last part? I hope someone does, lol.
9. Other nations are watching our march toward homosexual marriage and will follow our lead.
Marriage among homosexuals will spread throughout the world, just as pornography did after the Nixon Commission declared obscene material “beneficial” to mankind. Almost instantly, the English-speaking countries liberalized their laws against smut. America continues to be the fountainhead of filth and immorality, and its influence is global. Dr. Darrell Reid, president of Focus on the Family Canada, told me recently that his country is carefully monitoring what is happening in the United States. If we take this step off a cliff, the family on every continent will splinter at an accelerated rate. Conversely, our Supreme Court has made it clear that it looks to European and Canadian law in the interpretation of our Constitution. What an outrage! That should have been grounds for impeachment, but the Congress, as usual, remained passive and silent.
*~*~Foreign countries should follow our lead, but really as far as understanding goes, other countries are far ahead of us americans, when it comes to homosexuality that is. As far as the Nixon/smut part, until Christianity came along, was nudity not a bad thing. America is full of "filth and immorality" but so is every other country in the world. Ok so its an "outrage!" for our own government to look to other countries to see how they interpret our constitution, how is that wrong, its simply informative. And once more, homosexual marriage would not be a bad thing.
10. The gospel of Jesus Christ will be severely curtailed.
The family has been God’s primary vehicle for evangelism since the beginning. Its most important assignment has been the propagation of the human race and the handing down of the faith to our children. Malachi 2:15 reads, referring to husbands and wives, “Has not the Lord made them one? In flesh and spirit they are His. And why one? Because He was seeking godly offspring. So guard yourself in your spirit, and do not break faith with the wife of your youth.” That responsibility to teach the next generation will never recover from the loss of committed, God-fearing families. The younger generation and those yet to come will be deprived of the Good News, as has already occurred in France, Germany, and other European countries. Instead of providing for a father and mother, the advent of homosexual marriage will create millions of motherless children and fatherless kids. Are we now going to join the Netherlands and Belgium to become the third country in the history of the world to “normalize” and legalize behavior that has been prohibited by God himself? Heaven help us if we do!
*~*~You know what I find funny "God-fearing families" is it ever a good thing to fear someone? "The advent of homosexual marriage will create milions of motherless and fatherless kids," how is that exactly?? Their are orphans out there, but they are the only ones without parents. So how does a homosexual marriage tie into that, it doesn't, most homosexual couples want kids but can't have them without more complicated actions. So most of the couples want to adopt kids, and if homosexuals weren't so discriminated, I believe more of those orphans would have families.
I find it funny when Dobson is talking about other countries that have legalized homosexual marriages or "behaviors," simply because he says its been prohibited by God himself. God created every man equal, every man is a sinner, but he loves each and everyone still. I know my religion well enough. But really this paragraph just proves to me more that people are forcing religion on others. Why not let people make up their own minds about their life. Yeah its obvious only men's sperm and women's eggs can make a child. But I think things would balance out, between straight couples and their kids and homosexual couples to would like to adopt (and granted some of those couples actually take the harder way to be able to have their own kids). But only with Christianity (and its followers), does it make it seem wrong for two of the same sex to be together.
Oh and something I always say to people, man is the ultimate sinner right? Man is the one who wrote the bible, the bible could be the ultimate fictious noval, think about it. Now believe me, I'm not one person to try and get people to question their faith, or think of me as the devil acting out by getting me to test people's faith. By any means I'm not like that, I'm just trying to get people to think about things logically. I don't believe in worshiping someone or something, I believe in morals, virtues and living the everyday life the best I can. I want people to think and realize everyone is the same, inside and out. Different personalities, and different preferences in life, but in no way should those differences make someone wrong. I know people make mistakes, huge mistakes, but I can forgive and forget, I get over it. I can't say I am a believer in God, but I do think alot of teachings in the bible are good. Sure I wonder how the world came about and where we go when we die and all of that. But I've never been able to bring myself to stick with Christianity. I'm a worldly person, I believe in alot of things, I believe in life, and living it, and treating each and every person the way I'd like to be treated.
11. The culture war will be over, and the world may soon become “as it was in the days of Noah” (Matthew 24:37).
This is the climactic moment in the battle to preserve the family, and future generations hang in the balance. This apocalyptic and pessimistic view of the institution of the family and its future will sound alarmist to many, but I think it will prove accurate unless — unless — God’s people awaken and begin an even greater vigil of prayer for our nation. That’s why we are urgently seeking the Lord’s favor and asking Him to hear the petitions of His people and heal our land. As of this time, however, large segments of the church still appear to be unaware of the danger; its leaders are surprisingly silent about our peril (although we are tremendously thankful for the efforts of those who have spoken out on this issue). This reticence on behalf of Christians is deeply troubling. Marriage is a sacrament designed by God that serves as a metaphor for the relationship between Christ and His church. Tampering with His plan for the family is immoral and wrong. To violate the Lord’s expressed will for humankind, especially in regard to behavior that He has prohibited, is to court disaster.
*~*~Marriage is a sacrament designed by the people, as a legal acknowledgement of their love. Meh... to preserve the family, thats near impossible, you'd have to stop all of the divorces with normal heterosexual families first, then you'd have to prevent any homosexual marriages too. But thats in the eyes of Christianity. Its all going to be based on religion But you have to think about it, before Christianity was actually around, being a homosexual was not a bad thing. Like back when the Romans ruled, most male leaders had a male "mistress." Like Ceasar. It just wasn't a big deal back then. I don't have a whole lot of specifics on that, but I do know its true.
But really though, you have to really think about it, before Christianity came around, being a homosexual really just wasn't that big of a deal. So why has it made such a difference? But ever since it did come around, and the spreading of it (most of which was imposed), it has been forced on people as they were being raised as child. I probably would be just like the next christian person, but I learned to think for myself and to think outside of the box when growing up. The world isn't just peachy like to many Christians choose to believe, or I should say ignore, you can't follow one path and ignore the rest of the world. Not in today's society, you have to interact with millions of other people who are different than your self, of different races, religions, ages, genders, sexual preferences, etc.
No one single person is exactly like you, and people need to realize that, and accept it. Otherwise I believe there will always be struggles, I know that well after I die for me more generations, the culture war will not be over lol. Christians could believe like Dobson, that God will come down and flood the world and only save the believers and wash away all the sinners. But what about all the other nonbelievers in the world today, the don't belive in God or that he'll come and flood the world. To the Christians, ya'll are not the only people in the world, you do not control the world, yes your opinion matters, but stop imposing on the way other people want and choose to live. Live your life the way you want to, and let the other people live theres.
Link to Dobson's article
1. The legalization of homosexual marriage will quickly destroy the traditional family.
We’ve already seen evidence from the Scandinavian countries that de-facto homosexual marriage destroys the real Mc Coy. These two entities cannot coexist because they represent opposite ends of the universe. A book could be written on the reasons for this collision between matter and antimatter, but I will cite three of them. First, when the State sanctions homosexual relationships and gives them its blessing, the younger generation becomes confused about sexual identity and quickly loses its understanding of lifelong commitments, emotional bonding, sexual purity, the role of children in a family, and from a spiritual perspective, the “sanctity” of marriage. Marriage is reduced to something of a partnership that provides attractive benefits and sexual convenience, but cannot offer the intimacy described in Genesis. Cohabitation and short-term relationships are the inevitable result. Ask the Norwegians, the Swedes, and the people from the Netherlands. That is exactly what is happening there.
*~*~If you really think think about it, marriage between a man and a woman is the same with any same-sex marriage, or would be the same if same-sex marriage was allowed. This says cohabitation and short-term relationships are the inevitable results of same-sex marriage being recognized. Look at how high the rate of divorce is these days, and yes divorce of a heterosexual marriage. Any type of marriage is bound to have divorces. And many heterosexual marriages reduce it just for the benefits and sexual convenience.
Second, the introduction of legalized gay marriages will lead inexorably to polygamy and other alternatives to one man/one woman unions. In Utah polygamist Tom Green, who claims five wives, is citing Lawrence v. Texas as the legal authority for his appeal. In January 2004, a Salt Lake City civil rights attorney filed a federal lawsuit on behalf of another couple wanting to engage in legal polygamy. Their justification? Lawrence v. Texas. The ACLU of Utah has actually suggested that the state will “have to step up to prove that a polygamous relationship is detrimental to society” — as opposed to the polygamists having to prove that plural marriage is not harmful to the culture. Do you see how the game is played? The responsibility to defend the family now rests on you and me to prove that polygamy is unhealthy. The ACLU went on to say that the nuclear family “may not be necessarily the best model.” Indeed, Justice Antonin Scalia warned of this likelihood in his statement for the minority in the Lawrence case. It took less than six months for His prediction to become a reality. Why will gay marriage set the table for polygamy? Because there is no place to stop once that Rubicon has been crossed. Historically, the definition of marriage has rested on a foundation of tradition, legal precedent, theology and the overwhelming support of the people. After the introduction of marriage between homosexuals, however, it will be supported by nothing more substantial than the opinion of a single judge or by a black-robed panel of justices. After they have reached their dubious decisions, the family will consist of little more than someone’s interpretation of “rights.” Given that unstable legal climate, it is certain that some self-possessed judge, somewhere, will soon rule that three men or three women can marry. Or five men and two women. Or four and four. Who will be able to deny them that right? The guarantee is implied, we will be told, by the Constitution. Those who disagree will continue to be seen as hate-mongers and bigots. (Indeed, those charges are already being leveled against Christians who espouse biblical values!) How about group marriage, or marriage between cousins, or marriage between daddies and little girls? How about marriage between a man and his donkey? Anything allegedly linked to “civil rights” will be doable. The legal underpinnings for marriage will have been destroyed.
*~*~I don't understand this completely, a man with 5 wives was seen not detrimental (but Dobson believes otherwise), and then Dobson goes into other things I guess he sees also has detrimental. He doesn't make sense with the paragraph, he doesn't connect well, in my opinion. A woman could have 5 husbands, a man could have 5 husbands. Anything is possible, but it was up to the government to legally prove them detrimental. In this case, one man's opinion is all it is. Based on the U.S. Constitution when it was origianlly written, a person should have the right to decide what his or her family will consisit of, it is up to them. And it shouldn't matter is someone has a difference of opinion of them, because it was not there decision.
The third reason marriage between homosexuals will destroy traditional marriage is that this is the ultimate goal of activists, and they will not stop until they achieve it. The history of the gay and lesbian movement has been that its adherents quickly move the goal line as soon as the previous one has been breached, revealing even more shocking and outrageous objectives. In the present instance, homosexual activists, heady with power and exhilaration, feel the political climate is right to tell us what they have wanted all along. This is the real deal: Most gays and lesbians do not want to marry each other. That would entangle them in all sorts of legal constraints. Who needs a lifetime commitment to one person? The intention here is to create an entirely different legal structure.
*~*~I believe this comment is even more shocking and outrageous, and the information is biased. I believe he is wrong, most gays and lesbians do want to marry each other for love and to have the benefits and and acknowledgement of their love just like a heterosexual couple. Based on the constitution and struggles throughout time, this country was made so that everyone was eligible to have equal rights. So what makes homosexual marriages different that heterosexual marriage when it comes to equal rights, homosexuals should be granted the same rights as everyone else, but yet we aren't granted the right of marriage. If you disagree with this, then you are saying our U.S. constitution is wrong in the sense that everyone has equal rights.
With marriage as we know it gone, everyone would enjoy all the legal benefits of marriage (custody rights, tax-free inheritance, joint ownership of property, health care and spousal citizenship, and much more) without limiting the number of partners or their gender. Nor would “couples” be bound to each other in the eyes of the law. This is clearly where the movement is headed. If you doubt that this is the motive, read what is in the literature today. Activists have created a new word to replace the outmoded terms infidelity, adultery, cheating and promiscuity. The new concept is polyamorous. It means the same thing (literally “many loves”) but with the agreement of the primary sexual partner. Why not? He or she is probably polyamorous, too.
*~*~Why does Dobson continue to go with the polygamy view? I don't believe this is where the movement is headed. As a gay, I don't desire to marry more than one person, and every homosexual person I know is monogamous. Again I feel Dobson is being biased.
Liberal columnist Michael Kinsley wrote a July 2003 op-ed piece in The Washington Post titled, “Abolish Marriage: Let’s Really Get the Government Out Of Our Bedrooms.” In this revealing editorial, Kinsley writes, “[The] solution is to end the institution of marriage, or rather, the solution is to end the institution of government monopoly on marriage. And yes, if three people want to get married, or one person wants to marry herself and someone else wants to conduct a ceremony and declare them married, let ’em. If you and your government aren’t implicated, what do you care? If marriage were an entirely private affair, all the disputes over gay marriages would become irrelevant.” Otherwise, the author warns, “it’s going to get ugly.”
Judith Levine, writing in The Village Voice, offered support for these ideas in an article titled “Stop the Wedding: Why Gay Marriage Isn’t Radical Enough.” She wrote, “Because American marriage is inextricable from Christianity, it admits participants as Noah let animals on the ark. But it doesn’t have to be that way. In 1972 the National Coalition of Gay Organizations demanded the ‘repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into a marriage unit; and the extension of legal benefits to all persons who cohabit regardless of sex or numbers.’ Group marriage could comprise any combination of genders.”
Stanley Kurtz, a research fellow at the Hoover Institution, summed up the situation in a recent Weekly Standard article. He noted that if gay marriage is legalized, “marriage will be transformed into a variety of relationship contracts, linking two, three or more individuals (however weakly or temporarily) in every conceivable combination of male and female … the bottom of this slope is visible from where we now stand.”
*~*~I still don't see how this author is saying that 2 people speak for the entire gay community. And as for Michael Kinsley, what he wrote in his article was simply his own opinion or thoughts. And I don't see how Dobson is linking each of these individuals as a major problem. As far as I see it they are speaking for themselves not the majority.
We must all become soberly aware of a deeply disturbing reality: The homosexual agenda is not marriage for gays. It is marriage for no one. And despite what you read or see in the media, it is definitely not monogamous. What will happen sociologically if marriage becomes anything or everything or nothing? The short answer is that the State will lose its compelling interest in marital relationships altogether. After marriage has been redefined, divorces will be obtained instantly, will not involve a court, and will take on the status of a driver’s license or a hunting permit. With the family out of the way, all rights and privileges of marriage will accrue to gay and lesbian partners without the legal entanglements and commitments heretofore associated with it. These are just a few reasons why homosexual marriage is truly revolutionary. Legalizing it will change everything, especially for the institution of the family.
*~*~Does Dobson seriously believe that homosexuals would not have any legal commitments. A marriage is a marriage it would not change legal status just because it was between a man and man or between a woman and a woman. Why would the government change the rules and commitments of a marriage just because it would be a couple of the same sex. I think Dobson is out of line here.
2. Children will suffer most.
The implications for children in a world of decaying families are profound. Because homosexuals are rarely monogamous, often having as many as three hundred or more partners in a lifetime — some studies say it is typically more than one thousand — children in those polyamorous situations are caught in a perpetual coming and going. It is devastating to kids, who by their nature are enormously conservative creatures. They like things to stay just the way they are, and they hate change. Some have been known to eat the same brand of peanut butter throughout childhood. More than ten thousand studies have concluded that kids do best when they are raised by loving and committed mothers and fathers. They are less likely to be on illegal drugs, less likely to be retained in a grade, less likely to drop out of school, less likely to commit suicide, less likely to be in poverty, less likely to become juvenile delinquents, and for the girls, less likely to become teen mothers. They are healthier both emotionally and physically, even thirty years later, than those not so blessed by traditional parents.
*~*~Oh wow, I can't even believe what Dobson just said here. "Homosexuals are rarely monogamous and often have up to 300 partners and sometimes more than a thousand partners in a lifetime." Ok one he is completely exaggerating, and two that is complete bullshit to be blunt. The fact that he even says that is shocking to me, but yet other people still believe it simply because some scientist guy said it, it must be true. Ok and then he talks about kids with a mother and father are less likely to blah, blah, blah. Ok let me say this, any child with any kind of parent can go any sort of way with their life, good or bad. Heterosexual parents are in no way the ideal parents, they have the ability to screw up just like the next person. I know this, my parents divorced when I was 4. I have seen many homosexual parents, those either had them or adopted, and they are far more better parents than I have ever seen.
Social scientists have been surprisingly consistent in warning about the impact of fractured families. If present trends continue, the majority of children will have several “moms” and “dads,” perhaps six or eight “grandparents,” and dozens of half-siblings. It will be a world where little boys and girls are shuffled from pillar to post in an ever-changing pattern of living arrangements; where huge numbers of them will be raised in foster-care homes or living on the street, as millions do in countries all over the world today. Imagine an environment where nothing is stable and where people think primarily about themselves and their own self-preservation. And have you considered what will happen when homosexuals with children become divorced? Instead of two moms and two dads, they will have to contend with four moms or four dads. How would you like to be a new husband a generation later who instantly had four or six or eight mother-in-laws.
*~*~What happens when a divorced heterosexual family occurs, they have more grandpas and grandmas, theres not much of a difference. Any divorced family is going to have a change in living arrangements, etc. But I do not believe they would be raised in foster-care or on the street. They would still have a family even if they got divorced, their family would not abandon them. At the most, by today's law, a new husband would only have 4 mother in laws, well really just two. The original parents, and then the women married to those two would not directly be mother-in-laws because they are step-parents to the child.
We must also consider a world of the future where immorality is even more rampant than today, where both unbridled homosexual and heterosexual liaisons are the norm. The apostle Paul described such a society in the book of Romans, referring apparently to ancient Rome. He wrote, “They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless” (Romans 1:29–31). It appears likely now that the demise of families will accelerate this type of decline dramatically, resulting in a chaotic culture that will rip kids apart emotionally.
*~*~ It would not be immoral, but it is becoming more of a norm. But you do have to realize that unbridled homosexual relationships are that way because it is not legal to be married. But either way, unbridled relationships are becoming more common. My opinion is because the divorce rate is one the rise, and instead of becoming a statistic, couples are becoming smarter and choose to live together, etc. to test to see if they can end up spending the rest of their lives together. And as for what Apostle Paul said, that description is how all of the world is, and how it was then, after all everyone is a sinner. I don't believe it can accelerate or decelerate, it just is that way. I don't believe it will result in a chaotic culture or rip kids apart emotionally. And as for that, I believe kids growing up with homosexual parents have a more understanding view of the world, and are much more open-minded about everything. They are not as sheltered from the truth, like a kid would be with heterosexual parents. I base that opinion on my own life (with heterosexual paents, divorced, in which I grew up with a different view of life than most, and I'm also gay so thats another part of my view), and lives of kids that I know grew up with homosexual parents.
3. Public schools in every state will embrace homosexuality.
With the legalization of homosexual marriage, every public school in the nation will be required to teach this perversion as the moral equivalent of traditional marriage between a man and a woman. Textbooks, even in conservative regions, will have to depict man/man and woman/woman relationships, and stories written for children as young as elementary school, or even kindergarten, will have to give equal space and emphasis to homosexuals. How can a child, fresh out of toddlerhood, comprehend the meaning of adult sexuality? The answer is, they can’t, but it is happening in the state of California already.
*~*~Growing up, I don't remember being taught about sex in school until maybe 4th or 5th grade. But thats beside the point, why would it be so wrong for kids to understand how the world really is, rather than sheltering them from the truth. Its not as harmful as you think. If your honest with kids and they are able to have knowledge about things, then they can learn to think for themselves early in life and build their own opinions. Yes they would have to give equal space and emphasis to homosexuals, but it shouldn't be such a big deal, everyone deserves equal space and emphasis.
4. Adoption laws will be instantly obsolete.
From the moment that homosexual marriage becomes legal, courts will not be able to favor a traditional couple of one man and one woman in matters of adoption. Children will be placed in homes with parents representing only one sex on an equal basis with those having a mom and a dad. Even the polyamorous couples won’t be excluded. The prospect of fatherless and motherless children will not be considered in the evaluation of eligibility. It will be the law.
*~*~Adoption laws would not instantly be obsolete (no longer in use). And notice what Dobson says, the courts won't be able to favor a traditional couple of heterosexuals. When it comes to adoption companys or the people who do the legal stuff in adoption. They check out each family and decide if they are eligble to adopt, meaning they look at if they would be a responsible and safe family to have a adopted child. They don't just randomly give out kids to strange people. I believe any child with knowledge is able to put in their opinion of what type of parent they would like to be placed with. But most kids just want a safe loving home. And to reply to the parents only representing only one sex, well what about those single people who adopt, they are only representing one sex. It is actually fairly common for a single person to adopt than most people think.
5. Foster-care programs will be impacted dramatically.
Foster-care parents will be required to undergo “sensitivity training” to rid themselves of bias in favor of heterosexuality, and will have to affirm homosexuality in children and teens. Moral training, at least as it applies to sexuality, will be forbidden. Again, this is the current law in California.
*~*~Who cares if its a current law in California, I'm just saying that just cause Dobson says it like it a plague or something. Again, foster parents just like adopting parents have a choice in what type of child they receive (which technically they're all the same, but their sexual preference is simply different). But they do have a choice when they apply (or however they do it) to be able to receive a child. And if occasionally its against their will, it would be a learning experience. I believe more people need to open their eyes and see the world is different, but just because it may be different from them, doesn't mean it is wrong.
6. The health care system will stagger and perhaps collapse.
This could be the straw that breaks the back of the insurance industry in Western nations, as millions of new dependents become eligible for coverage. Every HIV-positive patient needs only to find a partner to receive the same coverage as offered to an employee. It is estimated by some analysts that an initial threefold increase in premiums can be anticipated; even with that, it may not be profitable for companies to stay in business. And how about the cost to American businesses? Will they be able to provide health benefits? If not, can physicians, nurses, and technicians be expected to work for nothing or to provide their services in exchange for a vague promise of payments from indigent patients? Try selling that to a neurosurgeon or an orthopedist who has to pay increased premiums for malpractice insurance. The entire health care system could implode. Is it possible? Yes. Will it happen? I don’t know.
*~*~And how exactly does being homosexual tie into this? Correct me if I'm wrong, each person pays for their insurance. And if you work some sort of money comes out of your paycheck to pay for some insurance or health tax. If you logically think about it, if you work and have health benefits, in some way you are really paying for those benefits. Nearly everything in this country is a contradiction. For example, something says buy one get one free, and you think well thats a higher price, but I'm getting two. But if you really do the math its the price of individual things just added together, and labeled that your getting two. At the most your saving a few cents. So having your employer give you benefits is similar, but easier to you because it seems as if they're paying for it, and is less of a financial hassle for you. Again you have to really think about it to catch my concept. But again how does being homosexual tie into this, it doesn't.
And I still don't understand how people always referring to homosexuals and HIV in the same sentence. I really don't understand that scheme. You get HIV from having sex, yes, and drug use (in which usuing needles), any random cuts, etc. But its not just a homosexual thing, and I think its time for America to stop looking at it that way. A very high percentage of people in Africa have HIV, but are they all homosexual, hell no they aren't. And I think americans realize that about the people in Africa. But they look at the people in their very own country differently. Accidents and mistakes happen, but its not one single person's, heterosexual or homesexual, one race, one age, or one gender's fault. People need to accept and realize that.
7. Social Security will be severely stressed.
Again, with millions of new eligible dependents, what will happen to the Social Security system that is already facing bankruptcy? If it does collapse, what will that mean for elderly people who must rely totally on that meager support? Who is thinking through these draconian possibilities as we careen toward “a brave new world”?
*~*~This is complete bullshit and unbased information. The definition of Social Security: a government program of monthly payments to te elderly, the disabled, and the unemployed, financed by taxation of employers and employees. How does the factor of being a homosexual key into this, it doesn't. Everyone, homosexual or heterosexual, is actually equal when it comes to social security. Honestly, I think Dobson was desperate for something to bitch about. Seriously being a homosexual does not make a difference in the way social security works, and if a collapse does occur then it will have the same effect on everyone.
8. Religious freedom will almost certainly be jeopardized.
In order to get a perspective on where the homosexual activist movement is taking us, one can simply look at our neighbors to the north. Canada is leading the way on this revolutionary path. I could cite dozens of examples indicating that religious freedom in that country is dying. Indeed, on April 28, 2004, the Parliament passed bill C 250, which effectively criminalized speech or writings that criticize homosexuality. Anything deemed to be “homophobic” can be punished by six months in prison or by other severe penalties. Pastors and priests in Canada are wondering if they can preach from Leviticus or Romans 1 or other passages from the writings of the apostle Paul. Will a new Bible be mandated that is bereft of “hate speech”? Consider this: A man who owned a printing press in Canada was fined $3,400 for refusing to print stationary for a homosexual activist organization. Censorship is already in full swing. One of our Focus on the Family radio programs on the subject of homosexuality was judged by the Canadian Radio and Television Commission to be “homophobic.” The radio station that carried the broadcast was censured for airing it, and I have not been able to address the issue since. Is that kind of censorship coming to the United States. Yes, I believe it is. Once homosexual marriage is legalized, if indeed that is where we are headed, laws based on what will be considered “equality” will bring many changes in the law. Furthermore, it is likely that non-profit organizations that refuse to hire homosexuals on religious grounds will lose their tax exemptions. Some Christian colleges and universities are already worrying about that possibility.
*~*~ Aww.... good ol' religious freedom, its been bullshit since the beginning of this country. Christianity as been imposed on americans, seriously think about it. Americans have relgious freedom, but yet when someone did witchcraft back in the day, they were burned or hung, just for thinking different, and going against the accepted norm. In the 1950's (specifically when, i'm not sure), "In God We Trust" was put into the pledge of allegiance. Now let me ask you, did they ask everyone in America if they wanted that in the pledge? No they didn't, but even so, the majority wins, and many legal battles have gone on since, but that just brings in more money for government. Ok and when you bring up Canada's decisions you have to realize they are not the United States, they have different laws than us. Here in America, we have the right of free press etc. Which makes it easier to plead your case if you publish something that is homophobic, you have that right. Businesses have the right to refuse business to anyone . However, you can not discriminate on basis of being prejudice. One thing about America, its full of contradictions, get used to it.
Honestly, I'm proud of Canada for criminalizing homophobic speeches and writings. Its promotes more understanding. Sure I don't think it would be a problem for pastors to preech their teachings of the bible, and whatever it says against homosexuals, in church. But thats simply it, it should stay in church. What is it about Christianity, and them trying to force religion on you. Don't deny it, thats what they do. In the old days, and still in today's society you are criticized and looked down upon for being different, hate crimes (physically and emotionally) still occur. I don't think homosexual marriages will bring on such changes (or not near as dramatic as Dobson makes them out to be) to America, sure things will change, equality will be more promoted. Get used to it. There are boundaries to everything. Religion will have its boundaries, keep it inside church, where it belongs.
And as for people saying they don't want to see any homosexual couples or whatever, well let me say this, I don't want to see any heterosexual couples either. Seriously I don't know how many times I'm seen straight couples making out at school and everyone else, I don't want to see it as much as the next person, save it for your home, please. I don't want to see them make out, and people don't want to see homosexuals make out either. There should be a balance with that. But homosexuals are shunned and criticizes for their PDA. I would like to be able to hold hands with whoever I am dating in public just like every straight couple is allowed to do, but being a homosexual I can't without some sort of negative result, atleast one person will give you a "your going to hell" look. I wish I could have equal rights and results just like a straight couple would. Homosexuals are no different than a straight couple, so why should we be treated differently. And seriously, any couple, gay or straight, save the making out and being all over each other for some place private, like your own home, I don't want to see it. Simple kisses and holding hands is ok, simple is ok. Any one else agree with that last part? I hope someone does, lol.
9. Other nations are watching our march toward homosexual marriage and will follow our lead.
Marriage among homosexuals will spread throughout the world, just as pornography did after the Nixon Commission declared obscene material “beneficial” to mankind. Almost instantly, the English-speaking countries liberalized their laws against smut. America continues to be the fountainhead of filth and immorality, and its influence is global. Dr. Darrell Reid, president of Focus on the Family Canada, told me recently that his country is carefully monitoring what is happening in the United States. If we take this step off a cliff, the family on every continent will splinter at an accelerated rate. Conversely, our Supreme Court has made it clear that it looks to European and Canadian law in the interpretation of our Constitution. What an outrage! That should have been grounds for impeachment, but the Congress, as usual, remained passive and silent.
*~*~Foreign countries should follow our lead, but really as far as understanding goes, other countries are far ahead of us americans, when it comes to homosexuality that is. As far as the Nixon/smut part, until Christianity came along, was nudity not a bad thing. America is full of "filth and immorality" but so is every other country in the world. Ok so its an "outrage!" for our own government to look to other countries to see how they interpret our constitution, how is that wrong, its simply informative. And once more, homosexual marriage would not be a bad thing.
10. The gospel of Jesus Christ will be severely curtailed.
The family has been God’s primary vehicle for evangelism since the beginning. Its most important assignment has been the propagation of the human race and the handing down of the faith to our children. Malachi 2:15 reads, referring to husbands and wives, “Has not the Lord made them one? In flesh and spirit they are His. And why one? Because He was seeking godly offspring. So guard yourself in your spirit, and do not break faith with the wife of your youth.” That responsibility to teach the next generation will never recover from the loss of committed, God-fearing families. The younger generation and those yet to come will be deprived of the Good News, as has already occurred in France, Germany, and other European countries. Instead of providing for a father and mother, the advent of homosexual marriage will create millions of motherless children and fatherless kids. Are we now going to join the Netherlands and Belgium to become the third country in the history of the world to “normalize” and legalize behavior that has been prohibited by God himself? Heaven help us if we do!
*~*~You know what I find funny "God-fearing families" is it ever a good thing to fear someone? "The advent of homosexual marriage will create milions of motherless and fatherless kids," how is that exactly?? Their are orphans out there, but they are the only ones without parents. So how does a homosexual marriage tie into that, it doesn't, most homosexual couples want kids but can't have them without more complicated actions. So most of the couples want to adopt kids, and if homosexuals weren't so discriminated, I believe more of those orphans would have families.
I find it funny when Dobson is talking about other countries that have legalized homosexual marriages or "behaviors," simply because he says its been prohibited by God himself. God created every man equal, every man is a sinner, but he loves each and everyone still. I know my religion well enough. But really this paragraph just proves to me more that people are forcing religion on others. Why not let people make up their own minds about their life. Yeah its obvious only men's sperm and women's eggs can make a child. But I think things would balance out, between straight couples and their kids and homosexual couples to would like to adopt (and granted some of those couples actually take the harder way to be able to have their own kids). But only with Christianity (and its followers), does it make it seem wrong for two of the same sex to be together.
Oh and something I always say to people, man is the ultimate sinner right? Man is the one who wrote the bible, the bible could be the ultimate fictious noval, think about it. Now believe me, I'm not one person to try and get people to question their faith, or think of me as the devil acting out by getting me to test people's faith. By any means I'm not like that, I'm just trying to get people to think about things logically. I don't believe in worshiping someone or something, I believe in morals, virtues and living the everyday life the best I can. I want people to think and realize everyone is the same, inside and out. Different personalities, and different preferences in life, but in no way should those differences make someone wrong. I know people make mistakes, huge mistakes, but I can forgive and forget, I get over it. I can't say I am a believer in God, but I do think alot of teachings in the bible are good. Sure I wonder how the world came about and where we go when we die and all of that. But I've never been able to bring myself to stick with Christianity. I'm a worldly person, I believe in alot of things, I believe in life, and living it, and treating each and every person the way I'd like to be treated.
11. The culture war will be over, and the world may soon become “as it was in the days of Noah” (Matthew 24:37).
This is the climactic moment in the battle to preserve the family, and future generations hang in the balance. This apocalyptic and pessimistic view of the institution of the family and its future will sound alarmist to many, but I think it will prove accurate unless — unless — God’s people awaken and begin an even greater vigil of prayer for our nation. That’s why we are urgently seeking the Lord’s favor and asking Him to hear the petitions of His people and heal our land. As of this time, however, large segments of the church still appear to be unaware of the danger; its leaders are surprisingly silent about our peril (although we are tremendously thankful for the efforts of those who have spoken out on this issue). This reticence on behalf of Christians is deeply troubling. Marriage is a sacrament designed by God that serves as a metaphor for the relationship between Christ and His church. Tampering with His plan for the family is immoral and wrong. To violate the Lord’s expressed will for humankind, especially in regard to behavior that He has prohibited, is to court disaster.
*~*~Marriage is a sacrament designed by the people, as a legal acknowledgement of their love. Meh... to preserve the family, thats near impossible, you'd have to stop all of the divorces with normal heterosexual families first, then you'd have to prevent any homosexual marriages too. But thats in the eyes of Christianity. Its all going to be based on religion But you have to think about it, before Christianity was actually around, being a homosexual was not a bad thing. Like back when the Romans ruled, most male leaders had a male "mistress." Like Ceasar. It just wasn't a big deal back then. I don't have a whole lot of specifics on that, but I do know its true.
But really though, you have to really think about it, before Christianity came around, being a homosexual really just wasn't that big of a deal. So why has it made such a difference? But ever since it did come around, and the spreading of it (most of which was imposed), it has been forced on people as they were being raised as child. I probably would be just like the next christian person, but I learned to think for myself and to think outside of the box when growing up. The world isn't just peachy like to many Christians choose to believe, or I should say ignore, you can't follow one path and ignore the rest of the world. Not in today's society, you have to interact with millions of other people who are different than your self, of different races, religions, ages, genders, sexual preferences, etc.
No one single person is exactly like you, and people need to realize that, and accept it. Otherwise I believe there will always be struggles, I know that well after I die for me more generations, the culture war will not be over lol. Christians could believe like Dobson, that God will come down and flood the world and only save the believers and wash away all the sinners. But what about all the other nonbelievers in the world today, the don't belive in God or that he'll come and flood the world. To the Christians, ya'll are not the only people in the world, you do not control the world, yes your opinion matters, but stop imposing on the way other people want and choose to live. Live your life the way you want to, and let the other people live theres.
Link to Dobson's article
Wednesday, July 21, 2004
Ok so someone commented on one of my last entries, and I'm wondering who wrote this, either one of my friends or just a frequent reader. Please email me and tell me who you are, simply out of my curiosity.
"Great story. Sounds exactly like you - they must know you pretty well. Wish that things were different sometimes b/c we never know why certain things are the way they are.... I wonder why a lot."
"Great story. Sounds exactly like you - they must know you pretty well. Wish that things were different sometimes b/c we never know why certain things are the way they are.... I wonder why a lot."
Tuesday, July 20, 2004
~~The College Life~~
Is it all its cracked up to be? Is it all I hope it to be? I hope so, it has to be worth all the hard work, it has to be worth all the heartache I've suffered, yes I did just say heartache. I can do anything I want with this college, I've done everything to get into it, to persue playing soccer there and all that. But when it comes to financial stuff, theres not a damn thing I can do, and when I try to discuss financial stuff with my mom, I just get shut down, making me feel stupid and helpless. Is it so wrong that I want to know what is going on? I mean I am an adult, I have been for along time, but why can't she treat me like one. But really its also the fact that the last 2 weeks shes just been treating me like shit, well in my opinion atleast. Even though I know she doesn't mean to, but shes been lashing out at me lately. I hate it when she does that, when Kyle was here she'd lash out at him, but when hes not here, it all comes down to me. Even the most innocent of things lately, shes been bitching at me about it. So I just say ok, and stay out of her way the rest of the day, or well to simply put it, I avoid my own mom.
Well I found out the other day that my tuition per trimester is like $7,000, and well thats without the school grants. We don't know yet how much financial aid I will get, and I'm supposed to get some sort of soccer scholarship, although I know it will be a tiny one, if I even get one. Only 2 girls from the team graduated, so theres a very limited amount of money this year, but I'm not worried about that, I just want to play, I don't care about the money, as long as I get to play. And we still don't know if I will be able to do work studies, which is working for the school, and you can choose to put your paycheck towards your tuition or other stuff. Most definately mine would be going towards tuition, minus a set amount like $50 for food in my dorm. But really you see, I don't need food in my dorm, because I'll have 3 set meals everyday at the cafeteria, which might I add has pretty damn good food, lol. But anyways, so without any help, my total tuition per year is like $21,000. And both of my brothers will be going to school at the same time, and I really don't want to take out a loan, cause paying back loans is a bitch. But most likely that's what we'll have to do.
See I hate financial stuff, I'm majoring in international business, and NU offers several terms abroad, and I really would like to do them, but I don't know if I'll be able to, because of money. The terms abroad would be very good to have on my resume, very good. I've been stressing out majorly lately, about all this financial BS. I can't help it, I know what my mom is having to pay for, I'm not ignorant like most people my age. Plus well, theres the whole getting back in shape thing, and I have to push myself on it, and that gets pretty hard, I don't have a friend to go work out with or any of that, I have 21 days to get back in shape. I was running a few weeks ago, but then had to go work, and then I've been sidetracked since. I went and played soccer with my brother the other day for an hour 1/2, it was an alright work out, definately good for my soccer skills, but I didn't do a whole lot of running. And I've been doing crunches and some other stuff I can do in the house (like some yoga, and pilates). Its stressing me out, I need Coach Morgan to call me up, and make me go work out with her, or her come get me, seeing as how I don't have a car anymore (oh thats another pain in the ass with college, I have no car). But arrgghh... I'm tired of having to deal with it all, but I start 2-a-days on Aug. 10th, and I have to be in the best shape I can to impress my coach, but as of now I'm not so sure its going to happen.
Well I just needed to vent that I guess, that's all I have to say for now. I think I've finally gotten back into my groove about writing. I have to have something to do during the day besides sit on my ass, lol. Well I'm going now, laters.
Is it all its cracked up to be? Is it all I hope it to be? I hope so, it has to be worth all the hard work, it has to be worth all the heartache I've suffered, yes I did just say heartache. I can do anything I want with this college, I've done everything to get into it, to persue playing soccer there and all that. But when it comes to financial stuff, theres not a damn thing I can do, and when I try to discuss financial stuff with my mom, I just get shut down, making me feel stupid and helpless. Is it so wrong that I want to know what is going on? I mean I am an adult, I have been for along time, but why can't she treat me like one. But really its also the fact that the last 2 weeks shes just been treating me like shit, well in my opinion atleast. Even though I know she doesn't mean to, but shes been lashing out at me lately. I hate it when she does that, when Kyle was here she'd lash out at him, but when hes not here, it all comes down to me. Even the most innocent of things lately, shes been bitching at me about it. So I just say ok, and stay out of her way the rest of the day, or well to simply put it, I avoid my own mom.
Well I found out the other day that my tuition per trimester is like $7,000, and well thats without the school grants. We don't know yet how much financial aid I will get, and I'm supposed to get some sort of soccer scholarship, although I know it will be a tiny one, if I even get one. Only 2 girls from the team graduated, so theres a very limited amount of money this year, but I'm not worried about that, I just want to play, I don't care about the money, as long as I get to play. And we still don't know if I will be able to do work studies, which is working for the school, and you can choose to put your paycheck towards your tuition or other stuff. Most definately mine would be going towards tuition, minus a set amount like $50 for food in my dorm. But really you see, I don't need food in my dorm, because I'll have 3 set meals everyday at the cafeteria, which might I add has pretty damn good food, lol. But anyways, so without any help, my total tuition per year is like $21,000. And both of my brothers will be going to school at the same time, and I really don't want to take out a loan, cause paying back loans is a bitch. But most likely that's what we'll have to do.
See I hate financial stuff, I'm majoring in international business, and NU offers several terms abroad, and I really would like to do them, but I don't know if I'll be able to, because of money. The terms abroad would be very good to have on my resume, very good. I've been stressing out majorly lately, about all this financial BS. I can't help it, I know what my mom is having to pay for, I'm not ignorant like most people my age. Plus well, theres the whole getting back in shape thing, and I have to push myself on it, and that gets pretty hard, I don't have a friend to go work out with or any of that, I have 21 days to get back in shape. I was running a few weeks ago, but then had to go work, and then I've been sidetracked since. I went and played soccer with my brother the other day for an hour 1/2, it was an alright work out, definately good for my soccer skills, but I didn't do a whole lot of running. And I've been doing crunches and some other stuff I can do in the house (like some yoga, and pilates). Its stressing me out, I need Coach Morgan to call me up, and make me go work out with her, or her come get me, seeing as how I don't have a car anymore (oh thats another pain in the ass with college, I have no car). But arrgghh... I'm tired of having to deal with it all, but I start 2-a-days on Aug. 10th, and I have to be in the best shape I can to impress my coach, but as of now I'm not so sure its going to happen.
Well I just needed to vent that I guess, that's all I have to say for now. I think I've finally gotten back into my groove about writing. I have to have something to do during the day besides sit on my ass, lol. Well I'm going now, laters.
Hey J. so how is it you are online reading my blogger and commenting yet you are on msn messenger so I could actually talk to you lol. Thanks for commenting by the way, you should know who the author is. Well I'm going to go, just wanted to leave this note for you.
Oh and to my anonymous friend, thanks for commenting as well, I will be sure and relay your comment to the author. Thanks again.
Well I'm going to go for now, laters
Oh and to my anonymous friend, thanks for commenting as well, I will be sure and relay your comment to the author. Thanks again.
Well I'm going to go for now, laters
Monday, July 19, 2004
*~*~A story written for me on my birthday, based on a true story~*~*
4/20/04
A Rock and a JackAss
Pencil paused above paper, the writer uncertain. Pain, heart-ache, suffering, betrayal, love, hope… and desperation swirled behind the mask which had become so familiar over the last several years it felt like second nature to draw it up and cast it before other’s eyes. All those emotions swirled there, waiting for release, demanding it, but she couldn’t think of how to put it on paper. She didn’t know how to shape it into a story, put it into a character, and let the character soar… Soar… like she never would.
She was trapped. She couldn’t write, like she used to love to do. She couldn’t draw, it had bee a while since she’d done something decent. Nights in her close, stuffy room were dark and unforgiving, and a constant reminder of the trap closing around her.
Was this part of growing up? Realizing that life wasn’t a win-lose situation. Was maturity knowing every move you make, every corner you turn, you were going to lose something? Why… why did the “something” this time have to be a choice between the family she loved, and the woman that held her heart?
The girl leaned back in her chair, squeezing her eyes shut, trying to prevent the tears that threatened to fall. A rock and a hard place. That’s where she was. If she had to choose… god, if she had to choose… A sudden spurt of anger broke through the fog. What choice? What choice do I truly have? None. None at all. Fuck it, though. Did they realize what this is doing to me? Out of love.
The writer snarled, pushing that thought away. Every time she showed a flash of anger, a touch of what was building up inside her, that thought was enough to push it all back inside, leash it, and let it ferment.
She didn’t want to lock her emotions away again, she wanted to lash out, let the inevitable storm growing inside her out, scream, cry, throw a two year old tantrum. Damn it all to hell, she just wanted to be mad. Opening her eyes, she stared at the ceiling. A few moments later, her shoulders drooped and her eyes closed again. She just wanted to love.
A rock and a hard place.
The girl fingered her ring for a couple of minutes, wheels turning. A thought came across strong enough, or amusing enough to break through the gloom. She smirked.
A rock and a jackass.
The rock would always be there for her, she knew that. So she was going to hold onto the jackass for as long as she was able. The girl smiled fondly, stroking the white valentines bear from her girl.
~~LOL I am the jackass, or should I say was. I still wonder what could have been, if things were different. No regrets, no regrets. The author should know they still have a special place in my heart. By the way I never thanked you for this story, it was a great present.~~
4/20/04
A Rock and a JackAss
Pencil paused above paper, the writer uncertain. Pain, heart-ache, suffering, betrayal, love, hope… and desperation swirled behind the mask which had become so familiar over the last several years it felt like second nature to draw it up and cast it before other’s eyes. All those emotions swirled there, waiting for release, demanding it, but she couldn’t think of how to put it on paper. She didn’t know how to shape it into a story, put it into a character, and let the character soar… Soar… like she never would.
She was trapped. She couldn’t write, like she used to love to do. She couldn’t draw, it had bee a while since she’d done something decent. Nights in her close, stuffy room were dark and unforgiving, and a constant reminder of the trap closing around her.
Was this part of growing up? Realizing that life wasn’t a win-lose situation. Was maturity knowing every move you make, every corner you turn, you were going to lose something? Why… why did the “something” this time have to be a choice between the family she loved, and the woman that held her heart?
The girl leaned back in her chair, squeezing her eyes shut, trying to prevent the tears that threatened to fall. A rock and a hard place. That’s where she was. If she had to choose… god, if she had to choose… A sudden spurt of anger broke through the fog. What choice? What choice do I truly have? None. None at all. Fuck it, though. Did they realize what this is doing to me? Out of love.
The writer snarled, pushing that thought away. Every time she showed a flash of anger, a touch of what was building up inside her, that thought was enough to push it all back inside, leash it, and let it ferment.
She didn’t want to lock her emotions away again, she wanted to lash out, let the inevitable storm growing inside her out, scream, cry, throw a two year old tantrum. Damn it all to hell, she just wanted to be mad. Opening her eyes, she stared at the ceiling. A few moments later, her shoulders drooped and her eyes closed again. She just wanted to love.
A rock and a hard place.
The girl fingered her ring for a couple of minutes, wheels turning. A thought came across strong enough, or amusing enough to break through the gloom. She smirked.
A rock and a jackass.
The rock would always be there for her, she knew that. So she was going to hold onto the jackass for as long as she was able. The girl smiled fondly, stroking the white valentines bear from her girl.
~~LOL I am the jackass, or should I say was. I still wonder what could have been, if things were different. No regrets, no regrets. The author should know they still have a special place in my heart. By the way I never thanked you for this story, it was a great present.~~
Friday, July 16, 2004
My Random thought for the day: I wish people I knew and the random people who visit my blogger would comment, since you are able to comment on blogger now (which might I add, is awesome, lol).
AVRIL LAVIGNE:
AVRIL LAVIGNE:
"Who Knows?"
Yeah, yeah
Yeah-eah, yeah
Yeah-eah, yeah
Why do you look so familiar
I could swear that I have seen your face before
I think I like that you seem sincere
I think I like to get to know you a little bit more
I think there's something more, life's worth living for
Who knows what could happen.
Do what you do, just keep on laughing
One thing's true, there's always a brand new day
I'm gonna live today like it's my last day
Yeah, yeah,
Yeah-eah, yeah,
Yeah-eah, yeah
How do you always have an opinion
And how do you always find the best way to compromise
We don't need to have a reason
We don't need anything
We're just wasting time
I think there's something more, life's worth living for
Who knows what could happen.
Do what you do, just keep on laughing
One thing's true, there's always a brand new day
Who knows what could happen.
Do what you do, just keep on laughing
One thing's true, there's always a brand new day
I'm gonna live today like it's my last day
Find yourself, cause I can't find you
Be yourself, who are you?
Find yourself, cause I can't find you
Be yourself, who are you?
Who knows what could happen.
Do what you do, just keep on laughing
One thing's true, there's always a brand new day
So you go and make it happen
Do your best just keep on laughing
I'm telling you, there's always a brand new day
Who knows what could happen.
Do what you do, just keep on laughing
One thing's true, there's always a brand new day
I'm gonna live today like it's my last day
Thursday, July 15, 2004
~~Its been like forever and a day since I last wrote~~
In a way I've been putting off writing on here, I'm not sure exactly why, but I just have. I offcially haven't really written in almost 2 months, and it kind of amazes me. I could lie and say I haven't written because I've been busy. But I have no job, no vacations, nothing to actually keep me from having time to write. I've had all the time in the world. I guess I just haven't had anything really to write about since I have had quite a dull summer. The only highlight of my summer has been being able to see my girlfriend Renee. Speaking of her, I haven't written about her, I haven't even written about graduation (well theres not alot to tell there, but meh.. oh well).
Ok so lets catch up a bit.....Graduation. I wasn't excited about it, it was just another day to me. Well afterwards we (my dads side of the family and my moms side of the family) were supposed to go back to dads house cause he cooked brisket, etc. But my mom claimed that since I totalled my car 2 days before, she wasn't in a good enough mood to be able to cope being around dad and them. She told me this the day before my graduation. I can't even begin to explain how much this pissed me off and how much it hurt me. I went and sat in my closet and cried for about 30 minutes, and probably would have continued longer, if my brother hadn't come upstairs because he needed something. Well what she said she went with, she didn't go to dad's and neither did my aunts. I would have enjoyed everything more if she would have been there, but she wasn't and I was just in a bad/dull mood. I've gotten over it, but it still gets to me, cause it was supposed to be my day. If only she knew....if only she knew.
Ok, and now about my wonderful girlfriend, Renee Riefler. So I first met her, well kind of, in the training room in the fall. She came in wanting to know some exercises she could do with her shoulder, she was a swimmer. I asked some of the other swim girls who she was, and I found out a first name lol. Throughout the school year, I noticed her more and more, if I saw her after a class, I'd remember which class (so that maybe I could accidently run into her, lol). I figured out where her locker was, and we always seemed to run into each other in the middle of classes, like I'd be going to the bathroom and she'd be going to her locker. The one day I remember most, was during passing period and I was going to soccer, and I passed her, she had just gotten her hair cut, and it was the first time I saw it. It blew me away, one cause it was not in a ponytail like it always was, and two it made her look more beautiful. Well finally in the last week or two of the second trimester, I was in Mrs. Lowry's class, in which I was the teachers aide, and I was done with my work so I was out in the hallway, I think that day I was reading (instead of sleeping). Well my friend Sara and Renee were walking around the school, cause Sara was really upset cause she basically had just found out that her mom didn't have much time to live. Well so I walked around with them, and Renee was acting like a jackass, lol. We went down to the gym, and there were these old school soccer jerseys outside the door, and Renee put one of them on and walk around with it on, it was funny.
Well anyways, when the 3rd trimester started, I was supposed to be taking business law for 1st period, well I decided to drop it because I had to retake english B part, and the only period open was 4th period, and I didn't want to have 4 classes, so then I only had to go to school 2nd period through 4th. Well my classes were soccer, food tech, and english. Well due to my class change, I spent the first 2 days of the tri in with my counselor figuring everything out, and the other day I was absent I do believe lol (which happened alot lol). So I was shocked to find out the 3rd day, when I walked into food tech, and to be seat at the very same table as Renee. Well the only person I could find to sit with at lunch was Sara, and well through out time of being in class with Renee and getting to know her more, she made more trips to our lunch table, mostly just to kick my chair. Now let me tell you, I had a crush on Renee, but oh my god did she get on my nerves in foods. She'd write BLAH all over my stuff, or right random pointless letters (and she did the same with emails once she got my address). And it was so sad and obvious, I flirted with her so much in there, tickling her, and watching her (well i should say, admiring her), etc. Up until the last 2 or 3 weeks of school, nothing changed between us, except she actually stopped and talked at lunch and we basically became cooking partners. Well finally Mat 13, a thursday (lol yes I remember the date, how sad) I wrote her a letter and told her how I felt about her. And luckily she didn't reject me, but we had to work through alot, and I mean alot. She kind of wrote me back and gave it to me that friday, I wrote her back and managed to get it to her that day (maybe even during that class, I don't really remember lol).
Then monday during lunch we ended up sitting in the hallway by the band room, and talked. She was so nervous about saying what she wanted, and even then she didn't really accomplish it. But its been so easy with her, because she is so much like me in so many ways. Like everything she was dealing with, I had been through, so I understood what she was trying to say. And because I had been through alot of it, I was able to give advice. Sitting in the hallway was a really memorable moment. Well that Friday after school we went out to my uncles cabin and went swimming and then hung out at my house. That day is when we officially started going out. And the next week was hilarious in foods. But well we've basically been with each other every free second of the day since then. She's finally stopped being such a nervous person, and I've gotten her to open up, and say what shes thinking. I'm really happy with her. Ok so sorry if I bored ya'll with details, but really any details I give is for my information later on. So I will be able to remember things throughly.
Ok so this is it for now, Laters.
In a way I've been putting off writing on here, I'm not sure exactly why, but I just have. I offcially haven't really written in almost 2 months, and it kind of amazes me. I could lie and say I haven't written because I've been busy. But I have no job, no vacations, nothing to actually keep me from having time to write. I've had all the time in the world. I guess I just haven't had anything really to write about since I have had quite a dull summer. The only highlight of my summer has been being able to see my girlfriend Renee. Speaking of her, I haven't written about her, I haven't even written about graduation (well theres not alot to tell there, but meh.. oh well).
Ok so lets catch up a bit.....Graduation. I wasn't excited about it, it was just another day to me. Well afterwards we (my dads side of the family and my moms side of the family) were supposed to go back to dads house cause he cooked brisket, etc. But my mom claimed that since I totalled my car 2 days before, she wasn't in a good enough mood to be able to cope being around dad and them. She told me this the day before my graduation. I can't even begin to explain how much this pissed me off and how much it hurt me. I went and sat in my closet and cried for about 30 minutes, and probably would have continued longer, if my brother hadn't come upstairs because he needed something. Well what she said she went with, she didn't go to dad's and neither did my aunts. I would have enjoyed everything more if she would have been there, but she wasn't and I was just in a bad/dull mood. I've gotten over it, but it still gets to me, cause it was supposed to be my day. If only she knew....if only she knew.
Ok, and now about my wonderful girlfriend, Renee Riefler. So I first met her, well kind of, in the training room in the fall. She came in wanting to know some exercises she could do with her shoulder, she was a swimmer. I asked some of the other swim girls who she was, and I found out a first name lol. Throughout the school year, I noticed her more and more, if I saw her after a class, I'd remember which class (so that maybe I could accidently run into her, lol). I figured out where her locker was, and we always seemed to run into each other in the middle of classes, like I'd be going to the bathroom and she'd be going to her locker. The one day I remember most, was during passing period and I was going to soccer, and I passed her, she had just gotten her hair cut, and it was the first time I saw it. It blew me away, one cause it was not in a ponytail like it always was, and two it made her look more beautiful. Well finally in the last week or two of the second trimester, I was in Mrs. Lowry's class, in which I was the teachers aide, and I was done with my work so I was out in the hallway, I think that day I was reading (instead of sleeping). Well my friend Sara and Renee were walking around the school, cause Sara was really upset cause she basically had just found out that her mom didn't have much time to live. Well so I walked around with them, and Renee was acting like a jackass, lol. We went down to the gym, and there were these old school soccer jerseys outside the door, and Renee put one of them on and walk around with it on, it was funny.
Well anyways, when the 3rd trimester started, I was supposed to be taking business law for 1st period, well I decided to drop it because I had to retake english B part, and the only period open was 4th period, and I didn't want to have 4 classes, so then I only had to go to school 2nd period through 4th. Well my classes were soccer, food tech, and english. Well due to my class change, I spent the first 2 days of the tri in with my counselor figuring everything out, and the other day I was absent I do believe lol (which happened alot lol). So I was shocked to find out the 3rd day, when I walked into food tech, and to be seat at the very same table as Renee. Well the only person I could find to sit with at lunch was Sara, and well through out time of being in class with Renee and getting to know her more, she made more trips to our lunch table, mostly just to kick my chair. Now let me tell you, I had a crush on Renee, but oh my god did she get on my nerves in foods. She'd write BLAH all over my stuff, or right random pointless letters (and she did the same with emails once she got my address). And it was so sad and obvious, I flirted with her so much in there, tickling her, and watching her (well i should say, admiring her), etc. Up until the last 2 or 3 weeks of school, nothing changed between us, except she actually stopped and talked at lunch and we basically became cooking partners. Well finally Mat 13, a thursday (lol yes I remember the date, how sad) I wrote her a letter and told her how I felt about her. And luckily she didn't reject me, but we had to work through alot, and I mean alot. She kind of wrote me back and gave it to me that friday, I wrote her back and managed to get it to her that day (maybe even during that class, I don't really remember lol).
Then monday during lunch we ended up sitting in the hallway by the band room, and talked. She was so nervous about saying what she wanted, and even then she didn't really accomplish it. But its been so easy with her, because she is so much like me in so many ways. Like everything she was dealing with, I had been through, so I understood what she was trying to say. And because I had been through alot of it, I was able to give advice. Sitting in the hallway was a really memorable moment. Well that Friday after school we went out to my uncles cabin and went swimming and then hung out at my house. That day is when we officially started going out. And the next week was hilarious in foods. But well we've basically been with each other every free second of the day since then. She's finally stopped being such a nervous person, and I've gotten her to open up, and say what shes thinking. I'm really happy with her. Ok so sorry if I bored ya'll with details, but really any details I give is for my information later on. So I will be able to remember things throughly.
Ok so this is it for now, Laters.
Wednesday, July 14, 2004
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